The Lloyd family is found here on the Man family website as a result of the marriage on 20 September, 1933, in Dorking, Surrey, between Eleanor Ida Man and John Alexander Lloyd (1908-1986). Below are some scraps of data concerning the Lloyd family with more to follow.  Pictured right is Hilda Lloyd, mother of John Lloyd, with her daughter's godson - Rick Millard. John Lloyd had three siblings: David, Nancy and Inez. There are three John Alexander Lloyds: the first (1829-1904) was the son of Ashkenaz Lloyd and father of the the second John Alexander Lloyd (1869-1939) whose son John Alexander Lloyd married Eleanor Man.

At the National Archives:  MS 11936/537/1153452  13 March 1833 contents: Insured: Ashkenaz Lloyd, 22 Coppice Row Clerkenwell, hardware man, tin man and die sinker. 

To see Ashkenaz Lloyd's family on the 1851 census click here. The family consists of the head - Ashkenaz Lloyd, aged 59, employed as a Tin Plate Worker, his wife Nancy aged 58, and their sons:  Frederick aged 32 who is a medical student, John A. Lloyd aged 23 who is an artist, and Edmund aged 17. 

In the Gentleman's Magazine for the year 1858 there is a death announcement on Septenber 21 of Ashkenaz Lloyd at Sidmouth, Devon, aged 66. His residence is given as Kew-bridge, Brentford.  Ashkenaz would have been John's great great grandfather.

In the Solicitor's Journal, Volume 9, Nov 5, 1866, there is a bankruptcy filing:  Lloyd, Wm Hy, John Alex Lloyd, & Alfred Ashkenaz Lloyd, Lea Works, Limehouse, Tin Case and Packing Case Manufacturers.

Below is the death announcement for Hilda Lloyd in the Times for August 20 1970. 

Eleanor Man met John Lloyd through John's sister Inez.  Nancy married Douglas Glass Chairman of the National Coal Board.  The Lloyds lived during the 1920's at Broome Park, Betchworth, Surrey.  The following three pdf files contain photographs of Broome Park at the time of the Lloyds.  The first file consists of exterior shots of the house and gardens, the second file is of interiors shots, and the third file is a combination of files 1 and 2 and is very large.  Also, a seventeen page pamphlet produced in 1920 and describing the property can be read here.  Below is the birth announcement of a daughter for Nancy and Douglas. Pictured below the birth announcement is John A. Lloyd (senior). 

From the records of the Old Bailey: JOHN LANE, Theft stealing from master, 27th February 1837.  Reference Number: t18370227-892. JOHN LANE Aged 15 was indicted for stealing, on the 11th of February, 4 sovereigns, the monies of Ashkenaz Lloyd, his master.

ANN LLOYD.  I am the wife of Ashkenaz Lloyd, who keeps the Rose and Bull public-house, Bankside, Southwark. The prisoner has been in my employ about six months-on the evening of Saturday, February 11, I gave him four sovereigns to get changed at Mr. Perry's — he did not bring the change — he went away, and was taken on the Wednesday after.

ASHKENAZ LLOYD . The prisoner was my servant. I apprehended him at Exeter-  understood he had booked his place for there when I took him he said he had spent all the money - I brought him back.

GUILTY . Confined Three Months, Seven Days Solitary.

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The Lloyds have been found on various censuses. Ashkenaz Lloyd and his family have been found on the 1841 census which can be viewed here and on the 1851 census which can be viewed here.  His son John Alexander Lloyd (1829-1904) and family has been found on the 1871 census and can be viewed here.  On 26 Aug 1862 John married Lindsay Symington (1838-1912) and her family (Symington) has been found on the 1851 census which can be viewed here and on the 1861 census which can be viewed here.  Also, Lindsay's brother - William Weldon Symington - and his family have been found on the following censuses: 1881, 1891, and 1901. Lindsay Lloyd's nephew and son of her brother William Symington was Lindsay Dening Symington who was a book illustrator.

Above - John Lloyd outside his home 'Hilltop', Dorking, with Clara May and her chauffer Marsh circa 1933.

The Lloyds lived at Broome Park Betchworth and in 1933 they sold a part of their property to a developer by the name of L.A. Dibdin who proposed building houses on the land.  There were protests against Dibdin's proposals and The Times of London ran some letters and articles about the controversy. About a month after Dibdin made his development proposals he and his wife were killed in a plane crash. To read about the 1933 Broome Park dust up, including the death of Dibdin click here (<---- 16 page pdf document).  Below John Lloyd and his garage.

Above Frank Man (left) in his first car outside John Lloyd's garage. Below Broome Park at the time the Lloyds lived there.

NOTES:  Patent granted to John Alexander Lloyd, of Little Bush Lane, in the City of London, Packing Case Manufacturer, for an invention for—" Improvements in cases for packing." Letters Patent sealed.

The graves of the Lloyds.

JAL I and JAL II along with their wives are buried at Saint Michael's churchyard at Chipstead, Coulsdon, Surrey. In the case of JAL II, who is believed to have died at Broome Park which is in another parish, his body was then taken to another parish (Chipstead) and there interred. Why did the Lloyds die in one place but be buried in anothetr? the Lloyds may well have lived at Chipstead, before the move to Broome Park and so may have returned to Chipstead for burial .