John Man (1685 - 1750)
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It is believed that our John Man the Elder was born in 1685 in Wargrave, Berkshire, the eldest son of Henry and Frances (Moody) Man (see Note One).  He was baptized on 5 October 1685 at St Mary the Virgin, Wargrave.  It is believed, also, that he is the John Man who married Ann Tyle on 14 December 1712 at All Saints, Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire. (Pictured left and see also Note Two).  John died on 24 November 1750 in the parish of St. George in the East, Stepney, Middlesex, and was buried on 30 November at St. Mary Matfellon, Whitechapel, Middlesex.  He left a WILL.

No baptismal record has been found for Ann Tyle at this time, but a burial record for Ann (Tyle) Man, has been located. One might have expected her to have been buried in Berkshire but a review of the Burial Index from the Berkshire Family History Society found there are no burial records of any of John and Ann Man's family, other than the second daughter Ann. That comes as a surprise. Obviously, they have died in other counties. In the case of Ann a review of The Hurst Court Records of 1767 indicted she had died fairly recently. A review of London parish records found a burial record for Ann Man dated 3 July 1765 at St Dunstan's, Stepney. The time is right and the parish is adjacent to St. George in the East, Stepney, where John was reported to have lived. To view the page on which Ann's burial record is located click here (<-- one page PDF). 

John and Ann belong to Generation One; their children belong to Generation Two and are: 

  1. ANN
  2. ANN
  3. JOHN 
  4. ANN
  5. THOMAS 
  6. HENRY
  7. FRANCES 

[References: John's baptism at Wargrave - FHL Film # 1040709; his marriage at Great Marlow - FHL Film # 1999444; time and place of his death - note on the back of the original will; his burial at Whitechapel - FHL Film # 0094711.] (The church above is a much later building than the one in which John and Frances were married, although note that the grave of Louisa Mary (Harris) Man is near the present church door.).

NOTE ONE:  In searching for John Man the Elder's baptismal record very few 'Johns' were found in the right time period.  The one clue to his parentage was that it was believed that John's mother's name was Frances.  This was based on the fact that in his will John Man the Elder admonishes his son John to be sure that his sister Frances receives the capital goods that her grandmother gave her.  Since there was an elder sister, Ann, the most reasonable explanation for this was if the grandmother's name was also Frances.  The record found in Wargrave (which is adjacent to Hurst) is the only one where the mother's name is Frances.

Burial Record of John Man
 Above the burial record forJohn Man at St. Mary Matfellon, Whitechapel, and below that of his wife Ann who was buried on 3 July 1765 (last line)
at St Dunstan's, Stepney. The initials "M.E.N.T." after her name stand for Mile End New Town
.
Ann Man Burial Record

"Great Marlow, including the Borough and waste belonging to it, is bounded, on the North, by High and West Wycombe; on the East, by Little Marlow; on the South, by the Thames; and on the West, by the parishes of Medmenham, Hambleden, and Fingest; the whole parish being about four miles and an half long, and three in breadth: and containing, by computation, about 6000 acres; of which, 800 are woodland, 200 meadow, and 4500 arable, divided into about 35 farms; the waste, or common, not exceeding one hundred acres." [The History and Antiquities of the County of Buckingham, by George Lipscomb, 1847]. 

Note on the church pictured above: This is of a more modern church than the one existing at the time of John and Ann, that church was demolished in 1832.

ADDITIONAL DATA ON JOHN MAN:

John Man of Hurst is recorded below as a 'joyner' (carpenter) with an apprentice William Easthamsted, dated June 30, 1719.

 John Man Joyner June 1719

From court records of the Manor of Hurst [1600-1828] (Family History Library Film 0088300 of originals at the County Records Office, Berkshire).

Surrender of half of Robinhoods by John Goode to John Man[n] and his heirs with Man[n]'s admission, 19 October 1715. [In Latin]

Surrender of the remaining part of Robinhoods by John Goode to John Man of Hurst, joiner. Surrender took place on the 30 January 1738/9 and the admission on 13 April 1739.

Presentment, at a court held 31 January 1757, of the death of John Man[n] seized of Robinhoods, since the last court. Admission of Anne, widow of John, for life. 

Presentment, at a court held 19 October 1767, that Anne, widow of John Man[n], who held Robinhoods for life, lately died, and proclamation for the heir John, son of John Man.

[The son John Man does not come forward and there is no further reference to the tenement in the rest of the book, which contains courts down to 1779.  The reason for John Man the younger not coming forward to claim the property that he had inherited from his mother etc., may have been due to the financial troubles that had begun to plague him and which caused him to flee to Wales, (see Thomas Roberts page)]

John Man is listed as a member of the Homage for the Court Baron of John Dalby, Esq., Lord of the Manor of Hurst.  The first entry is in January 1724 and the last is on 2 August 1750. The codicil to John's will states that he died on 24 November 1750.

19th Century map of Great Marlow showing All Saints Church

 

 

 

 

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